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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as Roberto Duran, Canelo Alvarez, Michel Rivera vs. Frank Martin, Dmitry Bivol vs. Artur Beterbiev, Steve Spark vs. Montana Love, Jose Zepeda vs. Regis Prograis, and more.
Hey Breadman,
Congratulations on the success this past month. Lately I have gone into a Roberto Duran deep dive. Im in my late 20s so there is only so much i know. Could you tell us about the greatness of Duran? I have a few random quickfire questions too!1) where does he rank in meanest fighters of all time?2) andre ward said he was the only fighter he seen fight with rage and work for him. Who else? Remember the fury hot coal comment?3) what if he retired after leonard win?4) who else in history could have given Hagler a run for his money who started at 135? 5) i was watching buchanan fight…holy sh!t rd13 and he’s fighting like its round 1! How would duran look in this 12 round world in his prime Thanks!
Bread’s Response: Duran is everything they say he is and more. He’s the greatest lightweight ever. He’s a top 20 welterweight. He’s the best fighter of the 70s. He’s one of the best underdog fighters ever. He has 3 of the best performances I have ever witnessed vs Ray Leonard, Carlos Palomino and Hector Thompson. He’s one of the best defensive fighters ever. He’s the best defensive fighter I have ever seen in an AGGRESSIVE FIGHTER. He’s one of the best infighters ever. He’s one of the best counter punchers ever. He’s one of the strongest fighters ever for his size. He has a great chin. He’s a great puncher. He’s the best Latino fighter ever. I think I covered it all but correct me if I missed something. I think so highly of Duran I ordered all of his lightweight title fights on DVD. He’s phenomenal.
1) He’s surely one of the meanest fighters ever. Meanness is hard to quantify but it’s fake mean and real mean. Duran is real mean. Fighters who consistently score stoppages over outclassed opponents display a level of meanness to keep going for the ko. Duran was a KO machine before he moved up to 147lbs.
2) Yes Duran’s rage did work for him. It backfired in the No Mas fight but overall it worked for him. There are others. Mike Tyson’s rage worked for him also. So did Gerald McClellan’s. But don’t be fooled. It wasn’t a blind rage. It was controlled.
3) If Duran retired after the Leonard win, he’s 71-1. People don’t know this but he had 8 fights at welterweight from 1978-80. And one of them was a perfect fight vs Carlos Palomino who happens to be a HOF. I think Duran’s status would be that of a top 5 fighter ever, with a clean record. We wouldn’t have seen him lose badly to Hearns. Or get outboxed by Benitez and Hagler. We wouldn’t have to see the 16 losses on his record. We wouldn’t see him quit vs Leonard. But we also don’t get the title wins at 154 and 160. The great performances over Davey Moore and Iran Barkley. The valiant performance vs Marvin Hagler. So it all evens itself out if you really think about it.
4) No other lightweight in history could hold Hagler that close in a fight with no catchweight. Especially in the 15 round era. As good as Whitaker was I don’t see him not getting stopped. Mayweather is also special but he only weighs 150lb max for his fights. Hagler in a 15 round fight is a tough ask for any lightweight. Ike Williams, no. Maybe Oscar De La Hoya could have not got stopped but who knows. It’s what makes Duran so special. We can’t even imagine another lightweight being that competitive with Hagler, while still trying to win.
5) He was actually green when he fought Buchanon. He was much more seasoned when he fought DeJesus, Lampkin and even Thompson. Duran would have blown through 12 rounds. 15 rounds is the standard. Duran was a deep water shark.
Peace be unto you. I hope all is well with you and your family. Brief questions...1- I was think about Canelo and his weight jumping throughout divisions. What are some of the long term effects of cutting and gaining weight that you've seen?2- Being in Philly, do you have any insight on Tevin Farmer? He had a nice run, lost a close fight and then he disappeared.3- Which leads to my last question, in your experience, which is harder and why, career wise... Working your way into a title shot? Or winning a title, losing it, and working to get it another crack at it? Great work with Caleb... I think the criticism of his post fight celebration was unwarranted and I was impressed with his response.
Keep up the great work loved one!
Peace and Power to ALL who strive,
Lamarr
Bread’s Response: 1-It all depends on how you cut the weight. If it’s just water weight it won’t be that dramatic. But if it’s muscle it can be an issue. I don’t know how Canelo prepares so I can’t say.
2-I’m a big fan of Tevin Farmer. He achieved a lot in his career for a fighter who started out 7-4. I also like his trainer Chino Rivas. I don’t know what’s going on with his career lately but I hope to see him soon. The last I heard he was scheduled to fight another good friend of mine Mickey Bey. So hopefully they make some money and they make it to and out of the ring safe.
3-Working your way to a title shot is harder but it’s better for the fighter. It’s harder because you start from scratch. But it’s better because fighters put their all into their first title shot. It’s like a music artist’s first album. It’s their life’s work. Getting a shot after you lose it, it’s easier because everyone wants to use your name as an opponent. A comeback win and you can get another shot. Sometimes you can get it without a win.
Bread, Forget the fights that aren't happening, this fight between Rivera and Nartin needs some attention, it needs some promotion behind it. A battle of young undefeated contenders in one of the most talented divisions. My question, not that I'm complaining but why is this fight happening? What is your early breakdown and predictions on how this fight will go.
Bread’s Response: Why it’s happening…I don’t know. Maybe they wanted it. Maybe PBC is creating on opponent for Tank Davis. Maybe they are creating an opponent to go after the other belts. I don’t know but that’s not my concern, I’m just glad it’s happening. I haven’t seen enough of Martin to give a prediction. But I was impressed with him. He seems like a smaller version of Spence which is expected. He’s in the same camp. He has the same trainer. And he’s a southpaw. He’s not as fluid as Errol yet but Errol is at the top level…I’ve seen more of Rivera and I’m super impressed. Rivera is tall. But he can fight at every range. He also has a good variety of punches. He has good endurance. He had a tough fight in his last fight but maybe the opponent was better than advertised. The only thing I’ve seen in Rivera that worries me slightly is, he looked a little gaunt on fight week. So he may struggle to make 135lbs. But I don’t know him personally so maybe that’s just how he looks cutting weight. I’m very excited for this fight!
Good Evening Bread, I hope all is good with you & yours.
Obviously, when a young man is making his way up in boxing you would expect him to grow & improve. When he wins a world title you kinda expect him to be finished article. Not necessarily. I'm gonna name 3 guys who improved exponentially from being WC. I would love you to come up with others or your thoughts on my picks.1 Dennis Andries won the LHW title by beating J B Williamson. Dennis was superhumanly strong but his skills were, to put it kindly, basic. He lost to Tommy Hearns & showed incredible courage when he rocked up at Kronk gym & asked Emmanuel to teach him how to box. Emmanuel taught Dennis the absolute basics of a jab & footwork & he twice regained that 175 title. What Dennis achieved is awe-inspiring. 2 The Roberto Duran that mashed up Ken Buchanan was an angry street fighter. That Duran reminds me of Ricardo Mayorga; he couldn't box but dear god he could fight! After a reverse Duran's people got Arcel in & he taught Duran a jab & a sleek defence. From then on in Duran just was one of the greatest fighters of all time. 3 Marco Antonio Barrera was a violent attack machine until he ran into Junior Jones & got damn near killed. The Barrera that fought Prince Nassem hit just as hard but was a completely different machine that didn't sacrifice defence for attack. Anyway, your thoughts Bread?
Bread’s Response: 90% of the times great fighters improve after they win the title. I think it’s common. It’s not always as drastic as Andries and Duran but it’s usually noticeable. Unless a fighter wins the title late, is a one hit wonder, or simply burns out after he wins it, most times fighters get better after they win the belt.
What’s up Breadman ? I wanted to write in last Week about Bivol’s performance, but I thought you would receive a ton on that subject. I was really surprise to see only 1 mail about his fight ! Sometimes you must be surprise too with what you receive and what you don’t receive. This fight make me want to see him fighting Beterbiev just as much as I want to see Spence vs Crawford ! He showed us a different Bivol on that fight, he left no chance to Ramirez, making him pay for every little mistake. He was just too smart, too quick but what impressed me the most was his strength. He held his ground and pushed back Ramirez the entire fight, he was the boss in that ring. Before that fight I thought Beterbiev was stronger, but now I think they might be equal.
I also would say it’s a 50/50 fight, but the way Beterbiev fights when it’s for a belt (Gvozdyk, Joe Smith) make me think that he can’t lose a fight with so much at stake, but what is great is that I feel almost the same about Bivol.I’m a big fan of both, also for the way they act outside the ring, they are real humble guys, intelligent and fun (not so much when the bell ring !). Do you think Chocolatito still have what it takes to defeat Estrada ? I do ! Thank you for your time!
Max from France
Bread’s Response: Bivol vs Beterbiev is equal to Spence vs Crawford in terms of significance but not APPEAL. Spence vs Crawford is bigger in terms of casual appeal but I don’t think Bivol or Beterbiev care. I love the match up. At one time I strongly favored Beterbiev. But Bivol has closed the gap. I really thought Ramirez would do better. I was actually shocked he was so passive. But That’s a credit to Bivol. He tamed him. He put him in his place. He imposed his class on him. Critics only credit bruising fighters with imposing their will. But you can also as a disciplined boxer.
Bivol sticks to his game and his game is now flourishing because he’s fighting elite level fighters. Often times all around fighters don’t wow you in showcase level fights because their skill shows up more when the level of competition increases. They never look as good in comparison to offensively dynamic fighters. But they often beat them when matched against them at the top level. Vernon Forest vs Shane Mosley and Bernard Hopkins vs Felix Trinidad are big examples of this. Both Mosley and Trinidad were the favorites in those fights because of how they looked. But Forest and Hopkins had other ideas. If they never fought head to head, Mosley and Trinidad would be viewed as better because they won in more dramatic and dynamic fashion.
I think this is the case with Bivol. Bivol is the truth and if he beats Beterbiev he would have a real case for being #1 in the world. Still and all, it’s easier for me to pick Beterbiev to win the fight than it is Bivol. Beterbiev turns my eyes on more. He turns my instincts on more. But I’ve underestimated Bivol before. It can happen again. The fights come down to a few things. One is can Beterbiev carry Bivol faster than he wants to go. Two is can Beterbiev box Bivol on even enough terms to win rounds if he’s not hurting him. Three is can Bivol take Beterbiev’s punches. No one seems to be able to, but there is usually a first time.
Chocolatito got smoked in their rematch . He shouldn’t have to fight him a 3rd time. I don’t know how much Choc has left but I’m pulling for him. The Choc vs Estrada rematch is one of the worst but close decisions I’ve seen. You often hear, the fight was close it could’ve went either way. In this case the fight was close but Choc was CLEAR 115-113 winner. Estrada is also a HOF fighter. At some point he will figure out. I wouldn’t be surprised if he figured it out this time.
Boxing is incredibly inconsistent when it comes to disqualifications and point deductions. I’ve seen multiple fighters remove their mouthpiece to bite an opponent and not be disqualified… I’ve seen fighters body slam opponents and not get disqualified… I’ve seen fighters attempt to break an opponents arm and not be disqualified… I’ve seen fighters continue to attack an opponent who’s been ruled down or knocked out and not get disqualified…Etc., etc., etc. So count me as surprised when Montana Love got disqualified for wrestling with Stevie Spark and tossing him out of the ring. Was it dirty? Was it stupid? Yes! But he should have been deducted points by David Fields, not disqualified! I felt the same way the only other time Fields disqualified an opponent in his career as a referee. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that result was overturned. I’m expecting something similar this time around too.
Bread’s Response: Steve Spark was on fire. He was fighting a good fight and I don’t believe Montana Love realized the fight would be that hard. So while in the middle of the fight, it’s hard to readjust your mind. After the head butt it’s clear Love says he can’t see. I’m not suggesting he quit because if you can’t see, you can’t see. Love doesn’t have to go blind for our entertainment. But when you say, “I can’t see”, something comes with that, and that’s usually the end of the bout.
So seconds later, they become tangled up and Love forces his elbow in Spark’s throat and Spark falls out of the ring. I felt like, if Spark was injured, then Love should be DQ. But Sparks landed on his feet and walked right back up to the ring. He was NOT trying to get OUT of the fight. He wanted to fight. So I thought the fight would continue. I was surprised the A side fighter in his hometown was DQ but I wasn’t outraged. It was a case of discretion by the referee. The referee chose to DQ Love. I wasn’t outraged because seconds before Love told the doctor he couldn’t see and most times a fight is stopped when a fighter says that. So the fight was stopped 15 seconds later after most fights are stopped anyway due to a fighter saying he can’t see…..There is no need for outrage in this case. Spark was winning and controlling the fight. If it went to the scorecards after the headbutt, then Spark should have been the declared the winner. I think the only reason it wasn’t stopped after the cut, was because they weren’t sure if Love was winning or not and they wanted to give him a chance to take the lead. I wouldn’t have minded seeing the fight continue but it’s not the worth the outrage considering the totality of the circumstances.
Salute to you Bread. In a big brother sort of way, I admire the way you comport and articulate yourself. Thanks for your consistency over these years with your mailbag and working with these fighters. I watched some of the Love vs Spark match. In no way am I making any excuses for Love, but my eyes and gut tell me that there was more to that DQ than was reported. I think Spark was eager to emphasize and clearly demonstrate the point that Love was rough housing/holding/etc, so he presented no resistance or maybe even "cooperated" in going over the ropes. I don't think he was intentionally trying to win by DQ, but I don't think the force that Love applied to him against the ropes was enough to send him over the ropes. What are your thoughts?? I did think that Love was conflicted as to whether he wanted to continue to fight in front of his home fans or have the fight stopped prematurely somehow without him possibly being beat up or stopped. I think he has some soul searching to as to what he is and what he is going to be in this brutal game. I'm not a fan of all the elaborate ring walks and french bulldog rubbing especially when you haven't really accomplished much in this sport. I dont want to come off bashing him because I see some talent there, but it's disturbing to see high level of flash and a moderate level of substance. Lastly, you mentioned bone density in this last mailbag. That has always intrigued me along with muscle density. Can you elaborate more on that when it comes to fighters and how they are able to compete in a certain weight class? I always thought that those things are big factors in durability, punching power, and stamina. Peace.
Bread’s Response: I think Steve Spark was on the up and up. He landed on his feet after the fall and was walking back to the ring to fight. I have no issue with him. I don’t even have an issue with Montana Love. He was about to lose his undefeated record. He was hurt. He had been knocked down. He was losing. He was cut. He was in a tough spot in front of his hometown crowd. I think there is loads of pressure on Montana Love. He’s drawn some attention to himself with his performance vs Ivan Baranchyk.
He looked good in that fight. And sometimes that causes a fighter to be overrated. I’m not saying he is but the expectations from him are. Love does not have a lot of kos in comparison to the amount of fights he’s had. But he’s expected to score big kos because of the Baranchyk fight. He has his stage presence down with the Pretty Boy act and the dog etc. But his level of fighting is not there just yet, however it can be with more development. He’s a talented fighter but in reality, he’s not developed enough for the expectations and pressure that’s on a fighter to sell out an NBA sized arena. Cleveland is a sports town. Think about the urban fighters who have been afforded Love’s position. Fighting in big arena in your hometown…..Most are usually world champion elite level fighters. As of right now, Love is a solid prospect trying to be a contender.
I think this was a case of Love being put in a spot that is reserved for more accomplished and advanced fighters. And it showed. I believe that’s all we saw. The level got to Love a little bit. It’s not that Sparks is Kostya Tszyu but things are different when everyone is gunning for you. When everyone will give you their best shot. Love may just be a solid fighter and not a star or champion. I can see the Adrien Broner comparisons but Broner was better than Love and he developed much faster. Broner was all world at 22 years old. Love is 27 and still is not at the level, Broner was at 21 or 22. This is no offense or disrespect to Love. I think he’s a solid fighter. But often times when the Powers That Be attempt to make a replica of a certain fighter, they’re impatient with the development. Let’s be patient with Montana. He seems like a nice kid and he’s trying to maximize his earning potential.
It’s not up to him to turn down these opportunities. He has to get in where he fits in. Hopefully he performs better in his next shot.
Bone Density is the amount of bone mineral in the bone tissue. So this among other reasons is why a two fighters can be 5’8 and have 70 inch reaches. But one can fight at welterweight and the other at featherweight. There is a difference in their bone tissue. Bone thickness. Bone density. Ligament tissue and muscle mass. And yes it’s relative to lots of things. The bones protect the organs, so if the bones are more dense it can make a fighter more durable. Good pick up.
Are there fights that you love to rewatch that you think don't get nearly as much attention as they deserve? What are some you think belong in that category?
Bread’s Response: I have hundreds literally. But some that I have looked at recently in awe. Simon Brown vs Terry Norris 1. Brown put on a master class in staying composed under fire vs a bigger man.
Roberto Duran vs Hector Thompson. Duran completely overwhelmed Thompson with combination punching.
Ray Leonard vs Andy Price. Leonard showed fire and finishing ability that was insane. His instincts in when to go for it, may be the best in history. Edwin Rosario vs Livingston Bramble, another great finish. Bramble was buzzed but Rosario pushed for the finish and his punch selection was Grade A. He snuck in some uppercuts in that were fantastic. Watch that finish, Rosario was awesome that night.
Hey Bread,
Can you call the Prograis v Zepeda fight? I've a feeling it's a great matchup.
Sean in Ireland
Bread’s Response: I’m going to take Prograis in this one. I really like both but I think Prograis is the class of the match up. But Zepeda has proven me wrong in the past. When I thought he was done, after his subpar performance vs Hank Lundy he came back to literally take the career of Josue Vargas away. So my guess is Prograis by 116-112 decision or a late stoppage. I love Prograis’s clever, fluid pressure and elusive style. He’s fun to watch and I think he’s better than most realize. Let’s see if he’s still at the top of his game. Excellent match up.
Breadman,
Let's just say while we have had championship fights on the regular, they have not all been for "supremacy" of the weight division. There are fighters that want the smoke; Usyk, Loma, GGG, Josh Taylor, Stevenson, Boots Ennis, and a few others. Then you have those that say they do, yet do all the contrary; Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia, Spence, Crawford, Munguia, Boo Boo Andrade, and a few others. I think the media and the fans wouldn't be as critical if we didn't constantly get lip service from these fighters talking about wanting to fight the best and then not. We both know Boots Ennis vs Crawford could've and would've been done as quickly if the fight was offered to Boots. Boots is a big name, a fighter that enhances a legacy and shows you want the smoke. We're posturing right now with Garcia vs Davis. The likelihood of this fight happening next is slim to none and slim left town. As you've said before, there's a formula black vs b-level Latino fighter. The organizations really did more harm than good. If there weren't so many belts, we wouldn't have fighters staking claims as being "the Champ". Off the top of my head,
I know that Marvelous Marvin Hagler had more fights before he got a world championship than total fights that most fighters retire with now and days that claim TBE, HOF, etc. Real fights and risky fights can be made - Plant vs Dirrell is just one example. We don't need to take a step too far, the 154 lbs weight class has pretty much round robin all the top fighters without any tournaments, promoters or networks getting in the way. There are so many fun and exciting fights that can happen, most will probably never happen. The fight game has become too business like and fighters don't fight often enough. With fighters current associations, age, weight changes, fight schedule, etc. here's a lot of fighters that we won't see fight every one of their counterparts;135 - Stevenson, Tank, Garcia, Teo, Haney, Loma147 - Boots, Ortiz, Spence, Crawford, Thurman160 - Andrade, Charlo, GGG, Munguia, Janibek 168 - Benavidez, Canelo, Charlo @ 168, Andrade @168If we look at the history of fighters who were truly admired, we see how they fought everyone. Sugar Ray Robinson all comers and all weight classes. Roberto Duran all the best at all the weight classes he hopped around in. Hitman Hearns wanted all the smoke from the best out there. Ray Leonard took all the best in the least number of fights. Salvador Sanchez took on some big names in a short span whether he looked good or not. Alexis Arguello dared to be great. Hagler dominated a weight class and took on all the best comers whether he won or not. Is this article and my opinion going to change the current era of fighters way of thinking...absolutely not. These same fighters just have to be realistic and cognizant that true fans will call them out on their legacy. Again, this is no disrespect to current fighters of this era. I respect everyone that steps in the ring. The game has changed and we'll see less of these fighters go down in the history books as all-time greats due to the inabilities to get the biggest fights made.
Richard K.
Bread’s Response: You didn’t ask a question. You sort of made a statement. I agree for the most part. But there are ways to force fighters to fight. One is the pay scale. If a fighter is making 5 million dollars to take 75/25 fights. He’s not going to take 7 million dollars to take a 50/50 fight. But if he’s making 3 million dollars to take 75/25 fights then he would take 7 million dollars to take a 50/50 fight. Pay scale is important.
Another thing, is better mandatories. The IBF did a great job in making Ennis it’s mandatory. He’s clearly the best non champion at 147lbs. I don’t care who you name Ennis is the best non champion in the division. If he were made mandatory in the sanctioning bodies, then 1 or 2 things would happen. The champion would have to fight or vacate. Another thing that can happen is titlist from other sanctioning bodies can be named mandatories. That way unifications can be forced. After a fighter is named the mandatory, the champion should mandated to fight them within 6 months. Boxing would be different, if the champion didn’t have years to fight the mandatory.
The RING Magazine should be able to mandate fights. I know it’s a stretch but wouldn’t if be awesome if the RING mandated championship fights just once a year.
Last but not least. If the star of boxing fought 3x in a year. Canelo did it a few years ago and he went from great to ATG. Let’s say a talented fighter like a Shakur Stevenson or Devin Haney who are young champions. Or say a young fighter like Boots Ennis or Vergil Ortiz wins a belt. If these fighters demand 3x in a calendar year. Or even 3 fights within 12 months, who’s going to tell them no? If you want the relationship with them then you give them what they want. Even if they have to take a pay cut or go the PPV route, they will get what they want. Fighting 3x in a year clears out competition. It keeps their name in the bright lights. It builds star power. All of boxing’s biggest stars and P4P giants of yester year fought 3x or more in a year during their peaks and it drove their stocks up. Let’s go back. And I’m only going to name fighters who did if AFTER they won the title.
In 1980 Ray Leonard fought 3x. In 1981 he fought 3x. He was the face of boxing and you saw his face 6x in 2 years of his prime.
In 1980 Salvador Sanchez fought 5 times. In 1981 he fought 4x. All championship fights. No wonder he’s as highly regarded as he is after dying at only 23.
In 1984 Thomas Hearns fought 3x. He was one of the faces of boxing and going into the Hagler fight in 1985, everyone was salivating to see him.
Pernell Whitaker was named Fighter of the Year in 1989. He was a top 3 P4P from that time on. He fought more than 3x year in from 1989-1992.
Evander Holyfield in 1987 fought 4x all championship fights. He won Fighter of the Year and cemented himself as the best Cruiserweight ever.
Mike Tyson fought 4x in 1987 and 3x in 1988. Those were his peak years. And he was boxing’s biggest star.
Oscar de La Hoya fought 4x in 1995, 5x in 1997 and 3x in 1999. Wow.
Roy Jones Jr. in 1993 fought 4x, 1994 3x, 1995 3x, 1996 4x, 1998 3x, 2000 3x. Yes Roy Jones Jr, the guy who got criticized for ducking smoke.
James Toney I don’t need to run off his stats. He was the ultimate smoke taker.
In this era out of our biggest stars. Only Deontay Wilder, GGG and Canelo Alvarez have fought 3x in a year recent years. If it’s not in the network budget, take a pay cut or make a fight no one can refuse. Make a fight that makes the networks money. Only special level fighters can pull this off. Regular champions can’t. But the Uber Talents can do it. A fighter doesn’t have to do it his entire career. Just 2 or 3 of his peak years is all he needs. A high level 2 or 3 year run gets you to 8 figure paydays and super star status. You will always have fighters who will try to con the system and ACT like they want to fight but never make fights. But for the most part, the cream will rise to the top.
Breadman,
I remember writing in 6 months or so back on a bookies offering 6/1 on keyshawn davis being a world champion by 01/01/2024, which given the current landscape seems unlikely.I've just seen the same bookies offering 6/4 on Boots being champion by 01/01/2024. I have no doubt in my mind Boots wins at his 1st opportunity, probably by KO, no matter the opponent within the welter to light middle weight classes. My question would be how long the system can keep him waiting. What are the chances of Spence and Crawford both staying at welter for the next year and fighting twice, effectively pushing Boots back further, would the sanctioning bodies allow it without having to vacate a belt? Do you think one/both are likely to move up in the next 12 months to leave a belt vacant, or Boots himself move up to get a crack at a light middle title?
Thanks,
Bread’s Response: I can’t guarantee Ennis will get a title shot but if I had to guess he will get one next year. I believe it will be a vacant title. And I believe he wins it. It’s worth the bet. Ennis is so talented. Even though “THEY” say he hasn’t fought anyone. No one in the world would be more than a -120 favorite to beat him and that’s just Crawford, Spence or Jermell Charlo. Everyone else would be underdogs. The oddsmakers know what’s up.
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